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In the scheme of things 230 years is a mere blink, but that's all it's taken for Europeans to utterly transform Australia. In another 230 years, what will we say?

Whatever the answer, the word sustainability is important. Dr Kate Auty is ACT Sustainability Commissioner. We talk about what that means for the ACT, and how we meet the forces that oppose it.

Dr Auty shares some life stories from the Kimberleys, and what happened when she held her ground as the Victorian Environment Commissioner.

Interview by Rod


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